If you can’t beat them, Mock’em

Blog Response to – If you can’t beat them, learn Kannada

There can’t be more than a handful of north-indians actually putting an effort to learn the language of the southies. If they are made to swear in the native language, or if they are forced to learn the native language then its only because they have forced it on themselves. So whats the big deal in Delhiites and Punjabis learning the local language. That’s not something to be hailed as their broadmindedness. But rather the result of their indifference and prejudice towards the southern states and their culture.

Lola Kutty in one of the episodes of Channel [V] I.Q. popped the question – Where is Kerala? Most of the answers were – ‘Somewhere in Tamil Nadu’. Now, how bad can it get. Civilized folks giving such a reply! That itself speaks about the apathy towards ‘Madarasis’. Ask an average office goer from south, the difference between a Punjabi and a Bihari, they would be witty enough to point out our Railway Minister and our PM.

Hindi is our National Language and folks from south did make an effort in learning the language. But i’m sorry, if they have a thick Malayali or Tamilian accent or if they add a ‘da’ to the end of every known question to man. Its utterly ridiculous to make fun of a person if he/she has an accent. You’re not British, you too have got a bloody crisp ‘d’, as in doe, doe-saa accent for ‘dosa’.

No language is enforced on anyone. Be polite to the hard earning auto-drivers and tell’em that you don’t know Kannada and they will help you. Rather than using your ‘decent-enough’ knowledge of the native language to get in and out of fights.

Hey wait a sec, lets talk about the cream of the industry, the IT world. You are taught to co-ordinate and collaborate towards a common goal. So lets all start to converse in English or rather Hinglish or Manglish or Tanglish. Down south an accent is not a big deal and nobody brags about it.

Scene 1 : One fine day, you are with your ‘good-english’ speaking northie friend and happen to meet a friend from your place. You speak to your friend in your tongue and the good northie samaritan aloo-paratha asks if you could make it in a common language. You and your friend struggle with the oddity of having to speak in a mixture of English+Hindi, just to make the other friend feel comfortable and not to make him feel like the odd one out.

Scene 2 : One fine evening, you join your good northie friend for a cup of tea. In walks his friend, they take off in hindi and you try to put the message across, the same way he did. 2 min into the conversation, your friend says, ‘Hey, you got a thick tamilian accent, its doe-saa and not dosha“.

Scene 3 : All four happen to meet at the same time. Northies take off in hindi and rambles on. You say a single line in your mother-tongue, Objection Your Honour!, ‘What are you guys talking about? All we can make out is pada-pada-pada-pada-pada-pada!!!’ or even worse ‘What are you guys talking about? All we can make out is – idly vada idly vada idly vada’

Now why is there such a sick behavior. Its not that we don’t know your language. Trust me down south 80% of the people in cities that you happen to come to, know Hindi, to a level that they follow you even if you are a Bihari or a Delhiite. Even still they simply choose to ignore as they feel, you come down south and ridicule them for what they are.

Bangalore would have been a truly international city, if the people who landed here could have given a little consideration to the local culture and people and rather not treat them as trash.

(Cross-posted here)

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  • http://www.kenneyjacob.com Kenney

    according to the 3 language formula north Indians also must learn one south Indian language. But how many schools there teach it ?

    We are forced to learn Hindi… just because its “called” National Language. Whats so special about Hindi ?

  • Anonymous

    Dear Kenney!!

    Now such qns dont suit an Indian.. “just because its “called” National Language.”

    Russians feel proud about talkin in Russian at international forums. Chinese feel proud of their language… And to list other nations, maybe the comment section wud take up the whole page.

    So whats the damn issue in Indians feeling proud of Hindi? Hindi is spoken by a vast majority of Indians. But still there are groups of Indians who feel that it shudnt be the national language and feel proud in talking in English. Don’t know what the pblm is…

    And just to satisfy you and many others who mite react to this comment, I myself am not from a Hindi speaking state but still… I am proud of one of the identities of our country – Our National Language – Hindi!!!

  • Visakan

    Hindi is our National Language and folks from south did make an effort in learning the language.

    Hindi is not our national language and there is no mention of this in the constitution. Refer Article 349 n 351. Hindi is just another official languages along with 18 other languages.

  • Ramesh

    Yeah…, Hindi is spoken by less than 30% of the population in the country. The constitution also does not approve it to be the national language.

    We were never a nation before britishers came in. We united to defeat a common enemy. We are different countries subscribing to the Indian union for our own progress. Enforcing an alien language like Hindi in South India, Karnataka in particular will have disasterous consequences. Those who come here must know the saying “be a roman in rome”. If you are so keen on national language, then lets have English as our national langauge, as that is what is understood by many in the south, and which is also spoken the world over. What fckin good it will bring by learning hindi.

  • Alister

    Hey guys, why brag about languages. am cool with English being spoken all over India. Down south, one needs to learn the local language. I did start to learn hindi because it is national language but i stopped it when i learnt that it is not. Speak English guys, what will you do if you guys meet up outside of India.

  • Nitin

    Hah..

    This is again another bullshit between North Indians and South Indians. You know, that’s constitute the main reason for India coming in 2010 and lying way back in 1200 B.C. You people are sick of arguing on who is the best…are South Indians best or North Indians smarter?

    Hindi…well some gentleman pointed out that Hindi is not a national language..the first logical thought to it..if you are given a right to choose a national language, will you select a language spoken by 70% population or the one spoken by remaining 30%. At least be responsible to your nation and start thinking on national front. Secondly, Article 343 of the Indian Constitution recognizes Hindi in Devan?gar? script as the official language of the Union Government. Article 345 provides constitutional recognition to “official languages” of the union to include any one or more of the languages in use in the state or Hindi language adopted by a state legislature as the official language of that state. But yes, I agree that Hindi is not a national language because of some people who take this as an issue of establishing their identity.

    I can’t understand from where South Indians have developed an inferiority complex that they are isolated and looked down upon by North Indians. They keep nurturing this kind of attitude and find solace in putting a blame on North Indians. It’s like somebody burning out of selfishness and creating havoc in the life of others. Leave this attitude, stop thinking about that you are side-lined and you become a part of a glorious nation. But if you keep indulging in a blaming game and mud slinging you gotta reach nowhere.

    So think and then act!!

  • Madhu Rao

    The misperception that anything south of Vindhyas is “Madrasi” is so insulting ! Not that I have anything against Tamilians, but just that I’m not one, so do not refer me as one! And I agree, it’s by the cream de la cream who ought to know better.

    2 weeks ago we were introduced to a group of northies and when we said we were from Bangalore pat came the question ” Aap log Madrasi ?”. I corrected that we were Kannadigas, but it did not seem to register. My wife jumped in where I was failing and asked “Aap log northies hai ? ” and upon them affirming persisted with ” Bihari ? ” . Got a horrified ” NOOO !”. ” UP Bhaiyya ?” she continued and they saw the point …

  • http://jerrymannel.com Jerry

    Guys, the post is never meant to be a north vs south fight. Dont make it one.
    As with the case of the people up north they really dont care about the identity of the people. Thats all what i meant to point out.

    @Visakan, @Alister, @Ramesh, there is nothing wrong in having confusing thoughts on a single topic. Please use the same id to comment and not resort to using 3 different ones. If you idea was to start a fight, sorry you failed.

  • Nitin

    Hi Jerry,

    I am sad about the embarrassment you might have felt when you were introduced to a group of Northies and they asked “Aap log Madrasi ?”. I am a North Indian and have spent 28 years of my life but believe me the north indians have no grudge against “south indians”. It’s only that Chennai/Bangalore is far down the South, they are not able to genuinely identify out of ignorance. North Indians have a jolly nature and they don’t allow local barriers to divide the social fabric. That’s the reason if you by mistake point any North Indian a Bihari/UP/Haryanvi, they will not feel that bad because they understand that this has come out of your ignorance. I agree that North Indians are brunt in speaking compared to South but again that’s their culture and they don’t keep fighting among themselves because of that!!
    My point here is we should increase our tolerance to accept people from different parts of our country and should not be so much thoughtful about our identity. Each of our heritage values are deep rooted and they can’t be so delicate to be let down by words. We need to come before the world as a nation built from a conglomerate of states respecting each other identity. Remember Human civilization can only benefit if it has tolerance imbued in it driven among different sections of society.

  • http://nomadicrider.com Sharninder

    First of all, I don’t know what are you trying to respond to. the article you have linked to in the beginning of the post is much less prejudiced than what you’ve written. That person is only trying to point out the fact that North Indians are making an effort to learn the local southern languages because its difficult to converse otherwise ! Sounds more like, If you can’t beat ‘em, Join ‘em ! No one is mocking anyone.

    North Indians do not have a problem with or mock South Indians as much as the Southies believe. I’m a North Indian staying in South India and have no problems with my southie friends. High time we start treating India for what it is, ONE country !

    I’ve been reading your blog for some time and I’m actually quite disappointed by your views in this post. Disappointed enough to try and not visit it again.

    And btw, when was the last time you called a Manipuri a Manipuri or a sikkimese a sikkimese and not referred to them as a Chinky !

  • http://jerrymannel.com Jerry

    @Sharninder first things first, i dont call any one Chinky! I refer to them as from North-east, the same way i say people from North / South

    Good for you that you dont seem to have a problem with the southie accent. But things are not fabricated and i neednt do cheap publicity. I dont need a flame-war. Things that i have written is from my experience and by quoting similar experiences of my friends.

    I hurts to lose a reader, but i stand by what i wrote. if not there is no point in my writings.